I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. As most Irish distillers use their barrels more than once, the color and bourbon flavor is thinned a bit once blended. To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! Maybe not the best role model, but whaddaya gonna do? [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. . OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. Literal Meaning. Although some Protestants continued to make and sell alcohol, and many more consumed it, the pressure was . In April I went to Jerusalem. Yet a great friend of Catholic Ireland. And we should all be thankful for this. The Protestant/Catholic thing was explained to me as a labor dispute where a bunch of Catholic Derrymen were laid off from the Bushmills distillery or some shite. But "this couldn't be any further from the truth," says McGarry. Nose I became a Whiskey drinker a few years back now, and started with Jameson. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. The last member of the family to sit on the board was Sir Thomas Talbot Power,[8] who died in 1930,[10] and with him the Power's Baronetcy. (Ref. I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. [1][2] A gold label adorned each bottle and it was from these that the whiskey got the name Powers Gold Label. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Jamesons for sure. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. . ** Cake 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. Jamesons too is lovely. When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. I should have thought of other whisk(e)y cocktails when typing that last thought. So, so stupid. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. I find it to be a littlethick? And it really is an Irish American thing to take to finding out which is protestant and catholic lol. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. (typically with the dots de-emphasised using colour and font size), is a brand of Irish whiskey produced by William Grant & Sons. Delicious! They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. It was fine w me, because the Jameson Distillery tour was fantastic. And not to get too specific, but given the choice, Irish Canandian Dry in the clear glass bottle (opposed to the green bottle or Finches). [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. Religion and booze dont go well together so its a subject that perhaps should be avoided. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Backlash against the Weimar Republicand the political, economic, and social changes in Germany that occurred during the 1920s Anti-Communism Nationalism Delicious. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. . For the record, despite the Scottish reformation, that doesnt mean Jamieson was a Proddy. Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. I love Redbreast and always have a bottle about, but based on some comments here Ill definitely be picking up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. So bottoms up. I was told by one Irishman the RedBreast would change my life and another one told me that The Irishman Founders Reserve would do the same. I must say I enjoyed reading this thread, and I had no intention of posting until I reached #58. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . But the Bushmills Distillery Reserve, a bottle of which my very, very good sister recently brought back as a gift from Belfast, is holy smoking delicious good. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Back to Top. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. For one, Jameson and Bushmills trade casks and some Jamesons bottles are bottled in the Bushmills distillery as well as knowing many a catholic who have worked there over the years. Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. Makes me want to get on a plane to Dublin immediately., Its like loving the smell of a sharpie or gasoline, in small way Kelsey Crenshaw. Bushmills I like, but I like Irish Whisky best of all the brown stuff. Not that it really matters. Those whiskeys seem to get along just fine! [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. and my green on July 12th. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. Bushmills is produced from 100% malted barley and grain whiskey (which it receives from the Midleton Distillery in Co. Cork where Jameson is made). Very sweet (like the inside of a burnt marshmellow). They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. [4] In addition, Barnard was high in his praise for Powers whiskey, noting:[4]. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. There is whiskey, and a whiskey drinker is a whiskey drinker no matter how they take it. What a treat. ** TONIGHT!! Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? one night. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. And to those who dont know, that hint of bourbon flavor comes from the fact that Jamesons is aged in used American bourbon barrels as are most Irish whiskeys. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys?. Jameson was pretty much founded in 1780 when John Jameson a Scottish guy purchased the Bow Street Distillery, which at the time was one of the biggest distilleries in Ireland. The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. The fun is is teasing those who do not know/care to understand. Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. The new bottling hall is also taking shape even though itll be a while before the on site whiskey will be bottled. Cant believe this discussion thread is still going on since 2009! While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. Holy moly, @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. By far the biggest of this selection. Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! This is part of a long standing agreement from the old IDL days. Most protestant in my area have a real problem with Catholics. I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. A bunch of bigoted b######s arguing over the religion of whiskey. And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. Period. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! hint of linseed. Check it out: http://whiskiesoftheworld.com. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? Please remember quite a few of you presidents from Grant to Clinton descended from this part of the world. Jameson has distilled fine Irish malt which has been then sold to Bushmills to use as a blend all of the way through the most controversial of times of Irish English relations to current. This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. It is about the spirit in the bottle, not in a church. Though it is good to remember that Bushmills & Jameson were selling about even worldwide up until the mid/late 1990s, before Pernod decided to put all of its eggs in the Jameson basket. Regards, BTW, while traveling through a Protestant section of Belfast, our tour guide (who had a joke or good story for most Irish traditions) pointed out a notorious Loyalist BarThat bar there (the Hideout)was blown up many times by the IRA during the Troubles. Then he went on to say, If youre ever down and out and ready to end it all, and cash in your chips, go in that bar there and order a double Jameson, and youll find somebody in there to help you with your problem., There is no doubt that the Irish themselves know all about the Catholic Whiskey and the Protestant Whiskey. Jameson is the Catholic Whiskey, and Bushmills is the Protestant Whiskey., I met Noel Campbell owner of Bushmills he told me it does not matter what foot you you Wear your shoe on. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. Spent the rest of the week getting to know Irish whiskey & came home w/ small bottles of Irish Whiskeys I wasnt sure I could get in the US so I could continue my coyage of discovery at home. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. Im a Redbreast man first when feeling flush, but usually turn to Powers or the old John J when cash flow is normal. Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. lol. And since I inherited her mothers sideboard, now repurposed as the bar in my den, I shall drink Bushmills tonight. It was as perfect in flavour, and as pronounced in the ancient aroma of Irish Whisky so dear to the hearts of connoisseurs, as one could possibly desire, and we found a small flask of it very useful afterwards on our travels. Your grandfather may have lost friends back in the early 20th century to the Black & Tans and im sorry to hear that, but guess what? The big difference between the two whiskies has nothing to do with religion, which is silly and, in some respects, rather ignorant. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). Whiskey has no religion. While Redbreast is great, wonderful stuff, dont ever pass up a chance to sample their self-titled Middleton. Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. Whiskey is Catholic. I came to mention Powers- it seems my work is done. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. You will love this stuff. -as he grabbed the Red Breast off the shelf. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! Ill have to try a Manhattan next. neat, I take Jameson if Bushmills is not available. Im a man who likes to know what he is drinking. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. But none of it means much, anyway: both distilleries are owned by huge international entities: Jameson by French liquor conglomerate Pernod-Ricard, and Bushmills by the English firm Diageo. Also, I understand that corned beef and cabbage is not a traditional Irish meal but it is a traditional Irish American Meal, particularly in the North East. Multi-national corporations, of course, know no religious or other loyalty, except to the almighty dollar/pound/Euro. 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