Live The Armory Life. Which reloading dies are your favorite? They were all accuracy problems, every stinking one. And check out the Best .308 Ammo, Best AR-10s, and Best 7.6251 Battle Rifles. Ive seen marine Corp team shooters shoot 3 groups at 300 yds with irons. When I go to any range and get out one of these or my Garand Tanker, people stop and walk over. KNIFE ATTACK! We werent sure, but we did find that both the National Match M1A and the SOCOM 16 performed about the same in this department with the SOC16s ironsights being a bit worse considering theyre thicker and obscure most of the target at 200 yards. Next you can upgrade your stock and that choice can be made from a wide range of stocks. I've been playing with blinkers my whole life to include 23 years in the military. on the GI length barrel, can be used as a crude, but effective range finder. WebThe Springfield Armory M1A is a semi-automatic rifle made by Springfield Armory, Inc., beginning in 1971, based on the M14 rifle, for the civilian and law enforcement markets in the United States. The first time I was exposed to the M1A was when I qualified with it in Guam with the Marines back in 1980 or so. What is the effective range of a Socom 16? Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. Imagine doing CQB with a 1903 or a K98 Mauser..The safety for that scenario is only in your trained body and mind. Standard Pistol Calibers. Had same issues as your video. Again I'm 72 with way less than perfect vision. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to use this website. Caldwell Lead Sled at 100 Yards! Have adequate ventilation at all times. Couldn't pass it up at that price and .458 SOCOM is legal for Indiana deer so it was an easy decision. All with tons of pictures, video, and groups. The rear sight is an enlarged military aperture sight, with a .135-inch opening that makes target acquisition fast for open-sight matches, where speed is a requirement. You still need something between the gun and the rock or you can develop both recoil direction issues as well as barrel harmonic issues. Round went nowhere near the target. Frankly it gets a little annoying people talking poorly of this rifle or any other when 99% of the time, it is a bad shooter and or bad expectations. As time moved on, the market became more and more interested in smaller, lighter and more compact firearms. My FAL shoot well but so did my FN 49 in 30 06 (& another 1 in 857 shot good also). Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>. Early M1A rifles were built with surplus G.I. Federal Premium Fusion MSR 150-gr. Aimpoint T2 Micro; Trijicon RMR; wars in Iraq and Afghanistan opened a need for a military rifle that could engage targets at ranges far outside the M-16/M-4s maximum effective range. What made this one stand out was that you could tell that they didnt want to make a negative review of such an iconic gun. Loaded with features from top to bottom, the XD-S Mod.2 is a slim single stack pistol perfect for concealed carry. Fully loaded with a 20 round mag, it weighs over 10 lbs. If u started young , 5 or 6yrs old(22lr) it's easy to remember ergonomics. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB as tested featured a Vortex Venom red dot sight, which the author pushed all the way out to 400 yards. All rights reserved. Proposition 65 also prohibits California businesses from knowingly discharging significant amounts of listed chemicals into sources of drinking water. I own an ex military Winchester made M14 and like everyone else pretty well has commented its a very accurate rifle. I think now what Im seeing is more like an average typical Springfield m1a. By requiring that this information be provided, Proposition 65 enables Californians to make informed decisions about their exposures to these chemicals. Nothing to do with what wounds are caused at that range, the assumption is if For safety: before handling a firearm read, understand and follow instructions in the manual provided with firearm. For example, the SOCOM's barrel has been shortened to 16.25 inches, the minimum length allowed under federal law. Worse, if you hang your head way back on the stock instead of behind the sight directly when shooting on the bench at paper, don't be surprised when you aren't getting the best from the best iron sight system ever developed. No, a sniper does not need a precision rifle. He has attended numerous armorer and gunsmithing courses. & Delta. He has attended eight factory armorers courses, five gunsmithing schools, and two Army sniper schools. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB starts with a 16.25-inch, carbon-steel barrel with six-groove, 1-in-11-inch-twist rifling and a Parkerized finish. This would give me a 1.5 MOA result I got a good prone position with a nice tight sling, shot two nines for sighters, then fired eight tens (or Xs) then called a nine and finished with a ten. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. This was a 100 meter range so it was a little over 100 yards and, in all fairness, I had done some competitive shooting but only in small bore. Takes time learning it. I had no problems consistently pinging my IDPA torsos at 200 and 300 yards. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. The highest capacity micro-compact 9mm in the world. The M1A is an older design that still ranks at the top in my opinion. still gives me sub moa groups as recently as the beginning of the month. I had one day where the recoil impulse on my third shot made me think I had a squib round. What sticks out as extremely odd for me personally though, is that weve never experienced issues quite like this with any of our other .308 guns, and the issues occurred across multiple reasonably experienced shooters. Inspired by the original G.I. 9 oz. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began I regularly saw slightly over 1 MOA with iron sights and probably 1 MOA with an ACOG at distances less than 300 meters, probably 3-3.5 MOA out to 600 meters with 147 grain federal fmj, and I could get back down to that 1.5 MOA range with 168 blackhills. I have a vortex viper hst 6-24 mounted on mine and consistently hit 1000 yards (10 inch plate) I can easily put 4 rounds in under an inch at 100 yards and I am by no means an expert shot. One shoot we went to 800, but my slow load with a 60 grain V-max was key holing at 800. Trained with an m14 in the Corps in '68..I can tell you that to obtain consistant groups requires proper sight alignment, sight picture, and a proper grip, and consistant weld. I know what works for me and has my whole life. Caldwell Lead Sled at 100 Yards! Handloaded it shot groups from .50 to .75 all day long. We don't doubt it at all - it seems the general consensus is that the M14 was, on average, a much better performing rifle than the M1A - though some folks still swear by their M1As as well. Inconsistent cheek weld and sight picture is the usual problem with the kind of shot groups you were showing. I think it balances a bit better, and I liked the sights on the Scout much better than the Socom. This review saved me from being hugely disappointed. Combining the performance of a larger handgun with class-leading concealability and capacity. SOCOM 16 CQB has MOA adjustments for windage and elevation, along with over- sized rear-sight aperture. Dont tell me an M1A wont shoot. I love the aesthetics of the M1 and M14 rifles but they are from a bygone era and it shows. That little extra recoil, noise, and muzzle rise the SOCOM 16 offers make it damn enjoyable to shoot. They also sent the targets they used and were signed by the repair technician. Another thing- for me the ability to reload straight into an empty gun with stripper clips is a huge plus. Too old now to buy an M-1A. The primary complaints were fragile receivers, malformed bolts, poor accuracy, and instability during automatic fire. Apparently inferior to the Garand in every metric, accuracy, recoil, reliability and then they shuttered the original armory. Springfield then mounted optics to the rifles using a 4th Gen Steel Receiver mount and tested them thusly. Internal Adjustment Range: 75 MOA windage & elevation Click Value: 1/4 inch, Tube Diameter: 30mm, Weight: 14-1/4 ounces Overall Length: 12 inches Reticle: Fire Dot Duplex (illuminated) Price: $599.95 >> Click Here << To See Performance Charts And More Photos Thanks to the team at GUNS Magazine click here to visit them for this These I found the CQB very enjoyable to shoot from the bench, standing or walking in the woods. The idea behind the M1A SOCOM 16 was to provide 7.6251 capabilities in a smaller, shorter and lighter package than the full-size M1A. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. The USMC shot 500 yd targets with iron sights. Shot a 10 round group that was 3.6" width and 6.8 inches high. Not to mention noone our age at least ( I'm a 60 model) had the $ for one of those things, not when you could buy a 69 340 Barracuda for $800! I was getting better grouping with my shotgun at 100 yards. The M16As effective range is only about 400 yards. He started a YouTube Channel reviewing guns and ammo just for fun and it is now a full-time business for him. Again, a bit of antiquated design here I dont particularly care for a safety mechanism that I have to get my finger near the trigger to operate, and the lever itself is quite stiff. After the Marines, I sold my 'Super Match' equivalent that was hand built by a former USMC Armorer back in California (like in 1990). However, with brand new rifles it is hard to determine which is at fault and presuming SPGFLD was not "shining" you, I would highly recommend that you acquire some of the MK118 LR ammunition and give it another try.. Also I would definitely clean the barrels with a copper dissolving solvent (your choice). The AR-type pistol grip and adjustable stock make this beefy platform much easier to shoulder and swing off the bench. Sad to hear that they suffer from lack of quality product now days. with Empty Magazine & OpticCapacity: 10-Round Parkerized Steel Removable Box MagazineTwist: 1:11 RHRifle Grooves: 6Accessories: One Magazine, Soft Carry Case, Owner's ManualMSRP: $2420. A 1911 with a host of duty-grade features. The primary complaints were fragile receivers, malformed bolts, poor accuracy, and instability during automatic fire. The 1X, non-magnifying optic has a dot size at a very useful 2 MOA, and battery life is an incredible 50,000 hours. The carbon steel barrel has a 1:11 right-hand twist, with the proprietary muzzle brake adding another 112 inch- es or so. I also had a lot of FTEs using Federal Match ammo. From the comments below and the Springfield techs results, it seems that the rifles are capable but getting the most out of them takes a high level of technique. From all of my reading and talking to various folks over the years, one of the primary requirements for the M-16 platform back in the early 60's was the ability to swap out parts between rifles. My accuracy comparison is to a 30-30 lever gun and an sks both with iron sights at 100yds. One thing I really like about the safety on the m14/M1A is that if you forget that the safety is on and put your finger on the trigger (which of course should only be done if youre about to fire) your knuckle will hit the safety inside the trigger guard as an instant reminder that the gun is in fact NOT ready to fire. I did make some modifications to it to improve accuracy. Like you guys, excellent customer service, and once back in my hands, no problems (the bolt roller cam pin or something or other had broken after ~200-400 rounds), and I was able to get my full confidence back with the weapon, with ~3/4" M.O.A. WebIn both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. So 50 years later what do I do, but go out and buy an M 1A. This summer I had about 3 witnesses who after I walked away from the line could not believe I could strike the gong consistently at that distance with only military iron sights.. NOT bragging but this was with iron std sights and surplus ammo that was at least 40 yrs old. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. Subscribe and turn on notifications to be the first to know when we release new firearms. if u are going to war u want the m1a. Look at slow motion videos of an AK-47 vs an AR-15. But military surplus ammo and you will have better luck or at lest I did. It takes balls to do that! Ready to fire? It just feels good to me, and I find that I actually get a more consistent sight picture with the M1A than I do with ARs. The National Match M1A is, according to Springfield, hand-built to win competitions. Some units still had access to M-14s and began using them on the battlefield. Cheers. I am eager to see what kind of groups I can get with that and at what distance. I would have to find the reticle or dot, depending on the optic I was using. The trigger on the rifle is a traditional two-stage, service-grade trigger, but still broke very cleanly at a shade over four pounds. The guns action is glass bedded into the walnut stock, which overcomes the traditional issue M14s face with poor fitment apparently affecting accuracy. gear. From cold to warm it seems to move a bit. That's shooting 168 gr match ammunition. And, when I do have problems with groups, I call my shots and realize that I, too, am making problems with how I'm sitting and how my sight picture isn't right. Not challenging your experience with and observations of the rifle. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Not bad for a gas rifle with a servicegrade barrel and the Leupold scope set at 2X. The guy I bought it from simply said he "couldn't get with it" and he was going back to his schmidt-rubin to shoot steel. The length-of-pull (LOP) can be shifted from 11.5" to 14.5". No matter how you slice it, the M1A is a big gun and Springfield isn't going to monkey with a proven system by experimenting with lightweight alloys. Personalize your experience. The next time I got the opportunity to see what a great rifle the M1A/M14 is, I was attending the Army National Match Gunsmithing Course at Rock Is- land Arsenal. WebM1A SOCOM 16 Rifles In both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. Hes a former paratrooper/small arms tech with the 82nd Airborne Division, former member of the Army Marksmanship Unit, and earned the Distinguished Pistol Shot Badge, the NRA 2600 Club, and Presidents Hundred tab. It blew the op-rod away from the bolt. Like its compatriots, the SOCOM 16 CQB is a semi-automatic rifle that operates using the battle-tested M1A gas piston, a rotating bolt and an all-steel action. the first two range trips were awful, the third range trip you guys did manage to get 1.5 and 2 MOA from the two rifle variants. Im not a great shooter so I cant blame the gun when holes seem to migrate. Again, were not so arrogant as to think that this isnt our fault but if so, why / how were we putting 2 rounds through the same hole only to completely fuck up the next round by several inches? The Scout, on the other hand, has an even shorter barrel and an effective range of only 300 yards. Children are attracted to and can operate firearms that can cause severe injuries or death. Be sure to stay in there, head down on the gun, vision through the sights under recoil. BUT it takes skill to achieve results using iron sights. For a result of 3.29 MOA One can argue about value of a safety that is separate from the selector switch, one can leave a weapon on full automatic without having to fumble through, you can get your weapon on safety without having to push through two selections. The answer is most likely in the middle - there are both poor and fantastic performing M1As in circulation for various reasons - perhaps quality control. Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 1450 at Palmetto State Armory Prices accurate at time of writing View Details Palmetto State Armory (See Price) Sportsman's Warehouse (See Price) The excellent Nightforce Optics 60x scope spotted all the shots. Chronograph results from my Oehler 35P were that the velocity loss is only about 60 fps from the normal length 22-inch M1A barrel. Open sights, 200 yards. All rights reserved. Next, there is an Evil Kneval jump from the mouth of the 7.62 cartridge to the lands and grooves of the standard M1A (or any other 7.62 rifle) rifling. And while the M14 may have left service as the primary rifle for the U.S. military relatively quickly, the spirit of the design has lived on with the M1A, introduced by Geneseo, Illinois Springfield Armory in 1974 and it was an immediate hit. I have both M1A Scout (nothing fancy) and a S/W AR-10 both are fed Hornandy 164 gr bt Amax. Thanks for the review! There are probably at least eight maybe 10 calibers that may outperform a 308 none of them are very interesting to me and I really don't like hearing about all the new stuff. The single-piece Archangel composite stock is loaded with features that will please the tactically minded. The overall length is a very compact 37 inches, and the weight of the rifle is 8.8 pounds unloaded. I'd be disappointed too if I had those results. Absolutely spot on in my experience. He earned the Distinguished Pistol Shot Badge, NRA 2600 Club, and Presidents Hundred tab. The AR's charging handle is the most mis-placed of any in the firearms world. The M1As worst critics online will tell you that the guns design itself literally prevents them from being accurized, due to the mechanics of how the rifles receiver fits into the stock itself. Fully loaded with a 20 round mag, it weighs over 10 lbs. A black composite stock provides interface with an enlarged ghost ring aperture rear sight and XS Sights tritium front post, giving you quick target acquisition. gun around in the first place, then recoil is not going to be an issue. My SR25 shoots sub MOA as well. From the factory, they're way too tight. I have some time on long range shooting, Im accomplished at about a half mile, but even the national match failed me at what I would expect at 100 yards, for $2,500+ it should shoot sub moa, I couldnt get below 2 moa. They are great rifles with 300m kill shots being natural but their limitations need to be observed or buyer's remorse may set in. Had a SVT40 that shot well also. This was the rifle that I went to the National Matches (hence the small sights on the "National Match" line) at Camp Perry in '92 with. The 7.62 does the job ! With the AR platform, I find I can keep magazines on my left and right side and reload with off or shooting hands very quickly, with using using just one. Try adjusting your selection. .308 WIN While they were alarmed at our results, they offered to bring the guns back and test them at their facilities to ensure we didnt get flawed rifles for whatever reason. I also picked up a nearly new, shot 50 times Predator Pursuit for $900 off of Gunbroker, nice varmint/deer package. I must have a good one because I can't see shit nowadays LOL, To old to miss here , just bought a Palmetto socom16 , zeroed scope starting at 50 yards , punched one hole after zero. If you keep a loaded firearm where a child obtains and improperly uses it, you may be fined or sent to prison. Truthfully, we have no idea, and we actually deliberated for a while on what approach we wanted to take with this review because at the end of the day, its still sort of inconclusive. articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. Actually, on the trigger itself. This rifle does not like resting "hard-on-hard". Best to use the sadlak gas block wrench, and first time around, I had to use an extension on it. If someone is looking for an M1A as an easy rifle to master. although I do not have negative impressions they should look else ware or ask someone on the range if they could have a go at it with a borrowed model. Often lauded for its durability and accuracy, the M1A platform chambered in 7.62 NATO/.308 Win. Needless to say the Marines don't like it when Navy guys out shoot them. The SAINT offers upgraded features where they matter most. But ammo choices didn't help the national match should have had 175g. I have a M1A Loaded that I bought used. The results you were getting were similar to mine, but a bit worse. M1A SOCOM 16 Options Best Red Dot for M1A. I found I was able to hit whatever I wanted with the M-14's that I used in the USMC. Click below for a FREE LESSON! You just found a new world to explore and its a little unnerving. Outside of that, rifle to rifle, is the old grip inferior? WebThe SOCOM 16 put three shots into about two inches, with the other two shots opening the group up to about ten inches using the Hornady Steel Match ammo. I shot my first M14 in the crotch, now I have a JRA M14 Rockola which shoots lights out with irons! That's what my doctor told me once when he didn't have a clue. The SOC16 is obviously a bit more compact and includes a 16 barrel in a black polymer stock with the iconic SOC16 muzzle brake upfront. Just wanted some feedback from people that .308 WIN I purchased a SOCOM 16 in 2010 and my first outing with it, I found the sights hardly needed to be adjusted. I'm a little surprised with Springfield's quality control that such a defect made it through the process on a $2,000 gun. I looked at buying a M1A. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began I secured two units for this evaluation one from Blackhawk and one from Voodoo Tactical. It also seems unlikely that wed be able to get two rounds to touch back to back if we werent decent shots to begin with, only to have a subsequent round end up nowhere near the previous two. Product specifications are subject to change without notice. That is something to consider when To get the proper weld you have to place the knuckle of your thumb of your trigger hand against your nostralthis brings your cheek to stock weld in the exact same position every time. I bought an M-14 from Springfield in the late 1980's. Thus arrived the M1A SOCOM 16 in 2004. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. There are very few sources online that have the credibility to be able to tell the truth, this is one of them. Velocity is the average of five shots, measured by a Labradar chrono, programmed to measure velocity 15 feet from the muzzle. Good shooters will no doubt stretch that a lot, with high BC bullets, but big game is way different than steel gongs. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. Any more or less and the accuracy becomes squirrely. I was an across the course NRA high power service rifle shooter for many years and I took the Match M1A out to 600 yards shooting with iron sights and it was great! Formal accuracy testing was conducted at 100 yards using the Vortex red-dot optic to shoot five 5-shot groups with 10 rounds fired to check velocity. I own two of the Springfield's M1A. The Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 16, like the M14, is a magazine-fed, rotating-bolt, gas-operated, air-cooled, semi-automatic, shoulder-fired rifle chambered in .308, aka 7.62x51mm NATO. It is the buyers responsibility to comply with all rules, restrictions and/or laws determined by your city or state. I still wonder what is going on with the rifles you reviewed. Its best single group was 2.05" with an average of 2.18". This was just my personal experience and 2 cents. Turned out the way a s*** ton more than it started off as even though it's shorter than it was. At Aberdeen, the army figured a max effective range of 656 yards for these guns because that was the range at which bullets began to wobble a bit due to lack of stability. Maximum effective range is based purely on the ability to put bullets on the target with standard sights and arsenal ammunition. It also has some unique features. The M1As safety is located within the trigger guard itself, and is essentially a metal tab that you press forward to disengage. We really hope we dont accidentally end up summoning the M14 defense squad by even suggesting that these guns are not the absurdly accurate sniper platforms it feels like a segment of pop culture has made them out to be, and for the umpteenth time were readily willing to accept that the problem may very well have been us. 460 meters/500 yards here. Since I was a member of the Units Pistol Team, I was able to attend the course during the off-season. We were the first training regiment at Wood to be issued the M14 and I have fond memories of that rifle. The safety was inside the trigger guard. As for accuracy, it is probably due to inexperience. Then the AR-10 platform got going at flank speed, and those accurized M-14's (as far as know) went back into storage. I've shot and loaded 308 most of my life and I kind of know what works. It shoots very reliably and I love the looks and history. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, The M1A, obviously a civilian variant of the iconic M14, fits squarely in that niche you can check our full video over on our YouTube Channel! You bet. I have people who have seen this trick but no one wants to try it. That's disappointing. Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 1450 at Palmetto State Armory Prices accurate at time of writing View Details Palmetto State Armory (See Price) Sportsman's Warehouse (See Price) The muzzle brake is a great addition to the rifle, but the iron sights are enhanced as well. Best marksman rifle or 10 MOA monster? I am no sniper and I don't get to go out to the range much. Forged in the fire of disciplined craftsmanship. WebM1A SOCOM 16 Rifles In both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. Incentive is the key. WebM1A SOCOM 16 Rifles In both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. The Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 16, like the M14, is a magazine-fed, rotating-bolt, gas-operated, air-cooled, semi-automatic, shoulder-fired rifle chambered in .308, aka 7.62x51mm NATO. Recoil is minimal for the 7.62 NATO and, honestly, I really cant tell the difference between shooting this and my full-size M1A Loaded. That little extra recoil, noise, and muzzle rise the SOCOM 16 offers make it damn enjoyable to shoot. That being said, the company has done a good job of giving it a balanced feel off the bench and making it 2 lbs. Standard defensive pistol calibers like 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP excel in the 0- to 25-yard range with a rough effective range of 50-yards or so. Considering that you have folks claiming that these are sub MOA guns at 1,000 yards with irons on one side of the debate, and uhhhhh some nerd that wont shutup about how the US should have adopted the FAL over the M14 on the other. Also, and this surprised me more than anything you wrotewhyWHY would anyone want to disengage the safety WITHOUT putting their finger near the trigger? WebIn both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. For example, the SOCOM's barrel has been shortened to 16.25 inches, the minimum length allowed under federal law. Type your email address and well send This was a great review. All right, you have my attention! I think this gun in the hands of a good shooter is easily a sub MOA gun. Back in January, I did something I have wanted to do for a long time. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB starts with a 16.25-inch, carbon-steel barrel with six-groove, 1-in-11-inch-twist rifling and a Parkerized finish. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB as tested featured a Vortex Venom red dot sight, which the author pushed all the way out to 400 yards. I originally shot it using an ammo box with a piece of carpet for a front rest. you a link to reset your password. 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